There were two Holmes-related panels. The first one was about BBC Sherlock specifically. I jotted notes so I could tell my F-list about it.
One woman in the panel had a glowing arc reactor under her T-shirt. At the beginning of the hour, the moderator asked her, "Aren't you really Iron Man?"
She replied, "Yes. I am Iron Man."
We all applauded.
We got into lots of analysis of Reichenbach and How Sherlock Did It. I've read tons of stuff so I only reminded them of the mannequin at the beginning of the ep and then shut up so others could speculate. We quickly agreed that there were a lot of red herrings in the ep, a lot of "clues" which weren't how Sherlock really did it. One person said there was a plant in the flat or somewhere at some point in the ep and she looked it up and it was some weird herb that can temporarily stall your heartbeat or something, but someone else said, "The plant was just a plant."
I did point out the apparent vampire bite at the end and suggested that the makeup people were having fun there. Everybody laughed.
Someone reported that Martin Freeman (who plays John) said that the stunt man really wanted to punch Benedict Cummberbund in the Irene Adler ep, "but that was my job."
The next day there was a Sherlock vs. Sherlock panel where we discussed the various iterations. The mods brought up the 2009 non-RDJ movie with the dinosaurs in it. Someone declared that she has actually read Holmes/Watson that was written a century ago. We all pelted her with requests of where we can find this pioneering work, but she couldn't remember.
One person said with disapproval that the early Baker Street Irregulars (the fan club, not the street urchins) were mostly upper-class English gentlemen. She said, "They really liked the idea of the Diogenes Club." I did not speak up and tell everyone that I love the idea of the Diogenes Club, but I totally do.
Seriously, we oughta bring those kinda clubs back. There can be ones for women, co-ed ones if that's what floats your boat - I'll start an all-Lesbian one, just so long as we can have an oak-paneled library where other dykes and I can drink brandy, smoke cigars, and denounce the state of the world. I love the idea of those old clubs, but especially the sublimely antisocial Diogenes Club. A place where it's against the rules for people to talk to you - if I want to talk to someone, I'll go to a slash con.
I plugged The Zero Effect, an overlooked movie where Bill Pullman played a modern-day Sherlock Holmes. You can watch it on youtube, plus it's one of my sources for my upcoming Irene Adler vid. I can see what it wasn't a big hit: the Holmes character lacked the sympathy which normally makes Watson and the audience put up with him, and Holmes and Watson didn't have a properly affectionate bond. Really, they could barely stand each other. But it's still very enjoyable and serious Holmes fans need to watch it. Hardly anyone's ever even heard of it.
I also plugged The Angel of the Opera, a novel about Holmes and the Phantom of the Opera. There was another such crossover, The Canary Trainer, which depicted the Phantom as an evil horrible person, so phooey on that. TAotO was very sympathetic to the Phantom. I have quibbles with its portrayal of Holmes, but there wasn't really time to get into all that.
Oh, at one point we discussed works that are clearly derivative of Holmes, like the Nero Wolfe novels, and I pointed out that Ichabod Crane the movie Sleepy Hollow is clearly strongly influenced by Sherlock Holmes. (In fact, when the previews started showing, that was the first thing that got me interested.) People were actually surprised. I think they hadn't even seen it! How is that even possible? What kind of fan skips movies made by Tim Burton and Johnny Depp? OK, I skip them sometimes *coughDarkShadowscough*, but at least I always know what those guys are up to. No wonder the fandom has remained tiny.
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There were two Holmes-related panels. The first one was about BBC Sherlock specifically. I jotted notes so I could tell my F-list about it.
One woman in the panel had a glowing arc reactor under her T-shirt. At the beginning of the hour, the moderator asked her, "Aren't you really Iron Man?"
She replied, "Yes. I am Iron Man."
We all applauded.
We got into lots of analysis of Reichenbach and How Sherlock Did It. I've read tons of stuff so I only reminded them of the mannequin at the beginning of the ep and then shut up so others could speculate. We quickly agreed that there were a lot of red herrings in the ep, a lot of "clues" which weren't how Sherlock really did it. One person said there was a plant in the flat or somewhere at some point in the ep and she looked it up and it was some weird herb that can temporarily stall your heartbeat or something, but someone else said, "The plant was just a plant."
I did point out the apparent vampire bite at the end and suggested that the makeup people were having fun there. Everybody laughed.
Someone reported that Martin Freeman (who plays John) said that the stunt man really wanted to punch Benedict Cummberbund in the Irene Adler ep, "but that was my job."
The next day there was a Sherlock vs. Sherlock panel where we discussed the various iterations. The mods brought up the 2009 non-RDJ movie with the dinosaurs in it. Someone declared that she has actually read Holmes/Watson that was written a century ago. We all pelted her with requests of where we can find this pioneering work, but she couldn't remember.
One person said with disapproval that the early Baker Street Irregulars (the fan club, not the street urchins) were mostly upper-class English gentlemen. She said, "They really liked the idea of the Diogenes Club." I did not speak up and tell everyone that I love the idea of the Diogenes Club, but I totally do.
Seriously, we oughta bring those kinda clubs back. There can be ones for women, co-ed ones if that's what floats your boat - I'll start an all-Lesbian one, just so long as we can have an oak-paneled library where other dykes and I can drink brandy, smoke cigars, and denounce the state of the world. I love the idea of those old clubs, but especially the sublimely antisocial Diogenes Club. A place where it's against the rules for people to talk to you - if I want to talk to someone, I'll go to a slash con.
I plugged The Zero Effect, an overlooked movie where Bill Pullman played a modern-day Sherlock Holmes. You can watch it on youtube, plus it's one of my sources for my upcoming Irene Adler vid. I can see what it wasn't a big hit: the Holmes character lacked the sympathy which normally makes Watson and the audience put up with him, and Holmes and Watson didn't have a properly affectionate bond. Really, they could barely stand each other. But it's still very enjoyable and serious Holmes fans need to watch it. Hardly anyone's ever even heard of it.
I also plugged The Angel of the Opera, a novel about Holmes and the Phantom of the Opera. There was another such crossover, The Canary Trainer, which depicted the Phantom as an evil horrible person, so phooey on that. TAotO was very sympathetic to the Phantom. I have quibbles with its portrayal of Holmes, but there wasn't really time to get into all that.
Oh, at one point we discussed works that are clearly derivative of Holmes, like the Nero Wolfe novels, and I pointed out that Ichabod Crane the movie Sleepy Hollow is clearly strongly influenced by Sherlock Holmes. (In fact, when the previews started showing, that was the first thing that got me interested.) People were actually surprised. I think they hadn't even seen it! How is that even possible? What kind of fan skips movies made by Tim Burton and Johnny Depp? OK, I skip them sometimes *coughDarkShadowscough*, but at least I always know what those guys are up to. No wonder the fandom has remained tiny.